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I realize I am commenting on a thread that is basically dead (much like this entire site seems to be with barely even a dozen visitors per day) but...I got my very first wink today and I opened the "form letter" that I received announcing the wink...and this is part of the text in that letter "Check out his profile and perhaps a wink will turn into a touch, fondle, or even a fuck." It's really hard to take this site seriously with mess like that. I get that the sexual aspect of this site is a key factor in how many relationships form here (not that I am convinced many do form) but seriously...phrases and terminology like that are simply crass and juvenile. I think when someone receives a wink the instinct is going to be that they are going to look at the associated profile anyway, and shouldn't need to be instructed to do so, and certainly not in that manner. That kind of crap is probably what results in the traffic and participation on this site dwindling as it apparently has from viewing the forum and previous traffic reports. In addition I suspect that's what attracts those fakes and no-class scammers that I see many complaints about. You wanna present something without a level of respect, then that's what you are going to get in return. I'm hardly a prude and certainly wouldn't be here if I were one, but there is quite a bit that should be revised here if there is any intention of keeping this site alive. It truly should be a highly successful venture, but the traffic count doesn't leave much hope for anyone expecting to find legit employment through here. Anyway, I'm honestly not here to whine or complain, but I had remembered reading this thread (and others a few weeks ago) and how I felt when I received that "wink" notification seemed to coincide with how others felt regarding the way certain things are presented around here and I couldn't help but chime in...even though this is an old thread and it appears there may be all but 5 people who regularly even peek in here

I have to agree with jagjet, it is really how you present yourself and what potential employers are looking for. You should really spruce up your profile and make it clear what you are offering, Not only stress that you are chubby but lso what you can all do for an employer.

I have tried this site for a short period of time now and the suggestions the webmaster is posing will likely just cause the site to become so cumbersome to use that it simply becomes obsolete. If one looks at other social networking sites such as adam4adam or okcupid they do not put ridiculous restrictions on members as it is up to the people meeting on the site to handle those tasks. It seems odd that this site where people are deemed "employers" and the other party "houseboys" has such enourmous problems compared to other social media sites. After setting up a profile and recieving over 100 emails from "employers" it is apparent that what these people are seeking is not the norm and is more a very specialized aspect of overall gay culture. It is likely the actual number of people 18-25 approximately that are truly seeking to live with a 45, 50, or 65 year old gay man or gay couple is so rare that it creates paranoia in the "employer" also known as the older gay man because he himself knows that what he is seeking is so rare it could be considered unrealistic. Thats where the people who have had profiles on sites such as these for 5-8 years or longer come in. What they are seeking and what is reality are simply not connecting. The whole concept of "fakes" and "scammers" must operate in that the older gay man who is in that terrible trap of only being able to find fulfillment with someone more than half his age is in a extremely vulnerable position to be targeted for scams because of his desperation to find fulfillment in something that is either so rare that he must search for years or simply does not exist but he holds out hope. The couples who want someone to live with them, I can't really comment on them other than its simply them living out a father/son or mentor scenerio or something more sexualized. When the layers of this employer/houseboy onion are peeled away it seems to really come down to one thing: A older gay man or couple who wishes to have sex with a 18-25 year old guy under the auspices of being a domestic helper. If you compare the role of domestic helper to other people who fill that role such as hispanic women they are not showered with vacations and trips to exotic desinations or use of their lamborghini etc. It comes down to the desire of the older gay man trapped in that mentality that he can only find fulfillment with someone half his age. For the couples, it may be more complex or simply they want a young gay guy to have sex with after years of being together. After all those thoughts it simply appears that yes these older gay men are in vulnerable positions since they are seeking something very unrealistic. I tried this site to see what type of people are on here and it seems as if it is a trap for the extremely paranoid older gay man and drug abusing younger gay guys and I don't see much coming out of it other than the webmaster killing his own site by making people "verify" themselves in 1,000 different ways. There are plenty of other sites to meet people and it almost seems as if he is bent on killing his own site. A complete re-vamp of how people approach what they are searching for and losing the paranoid mentality would likely save many members a lot of heartache and wasted hours searching for something that likely will never come to be.